Monday, 22 March 2010

Broken Smile

A man proposes to a woman 3 times.
She declines.
On the 4th time she says yes.

Do you admire such persistence in a man? Won't he ever think she has turned me down repeatedly because she doesn't want me? Or is it water under bridge because having her means more than all of that? Could one truly be happy knowing they weren't the 'first' choice or the desired one? Could they fully smile without a doubt in mind?

What do you think?

Maroon5 - She Will Be Loved

19 comments:

Anony said...

Hmmm

Standy said...

i guess when a man wants something he has to get it.. regadless and blieve me they dont think as why she doesnt want me or i wasnt her fist choice, they would just be happy with the fact that they got what they wanted!!

FUZZYBEAR said...

And yet the woman accepting on the fourth try just proves that she was playing hard to get and being a total fucktard.

Stuck in Lab said...

When she says yes, he should've said "Forget it, I changed my mind. See how it feels, bitch?"

Im just saying it isn't worth it for a person to live with another that they know was settling for them.

Stuck in Lab said...

Standy: Im sorry but you cannot be farther away from the truth. If you're talking about a specific person then by all means say what you want, but not all men would step on their own ego just to get what they want.

It may be a "peeing contest" but not all men would agree to be settled for.

Preach on, FUZZY. But this is a two-way street. He shouldn't have proposed after the first time, and she should've stayed her ground to make it easier for the both of them to go their own way.

FUZZYBEAR said...

The man knew she was full of BS hence why he persisted just so she could play out her stupid game like all women do.

Average.Q8i said...

Maybee The girl Had 9'rouff ..

Maybee She Was Recovering of something ..
Maybee She was Hurt By someone before him ..
Maybee She Realised that He's The Best for Her ..
Maybee She knew that he really loved her ..

I Cant determine With no Context .. ;/ ..

1001Nights said...

No I don't admire the man for doing that. I don't judge it, maybe he really sees something in this girl, but I think I would admire a man a lot more if I saw that he can move on and be happy without getting the woman he wants.

Having said that, I do believe that it would be water under the bridge depending on whether he has a good and big and forgiving heart. Some men/women are vengeful and when their pride kicks in they could go to extremes to relieve that burn. It really depends on whether or not this man himself has is a genuinely decent human being who's looking for love and commitment and not someone who's just persistent to prove that he CAN get her.

FUZZYBEAR said...

The women taking the side of the chick, not surprising.

But it's not like the woman would ever dare to propose to a man in such a manner described in the original post.

And this whole rejection thing and then finally accepting is an evolutionary trait, a playful and subtle manner in which to determine whether a man is suitable or not (IE a good mate/has good genes)

Stuck in Lab said...

Average q8i, thats ALOT of if's. Work with what you got within the context of this story. You dont need different contexts. Make reasonable assumptions based on whats written.

FUZZY! That was awesome! Thank you. I just laughed at your comeback to that other person who thinks he/she is agnostic.

I think 1001nights gave the most appropriate, logical, answer to the question at hand.

But lets not delve into evolution and natural selection in a social context. I get enough of that crap at work.

Yes its probably an evolutionary trait for self-preservation. She declines a few times to see what she can get from the market, but the market wasn't decent so she sought security at what she had at hand and gave in. So, in essence, she had the guy hooked, looked around for while, couldn't find anything better and thought "eh, might as well."

1001Nights said...

Stuck in a lab, thanks

Fuzzy Bear, I read a lot of your comments and if I'm not mistaken you seem insistent on the existence of a battle between men and women. While I agree that that does exist in some cases, seeing it as an issue that covers all male-female relationships seems extreme, don't you think? It reduces the individual into nothing but a gender when the reality is that men are not all one single kind and neither are women.

At any rate, when I read FourMe's post sometimes I really feel like I've got a lot to say but I try to remind myself that a lot of times she seems to be asking a question - actually seeking out an opinion and neither yourself nor Stuck in a Lab seemed to address that. Answer this:

"Do you admire such persistence in a man? Won't he ever think she has turned me down repeatedly because she doesn't want me? Or is it water under bridge because having her means more than all of that? Could one truly be happy knowing they weren't the 'first' choice or the desired one? Could they fully smile without a doubt in mind?"

I think a response to that would have been more generous than yet another recycled rant about women and games they "all" play.

f7ee7eely said...

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Hmmm

I dont know them therefore I cant judge them and even if I knew them I can only wish them a merry long life...

zwena said...

oh fofo u got a second proposal from a girl in the blogsphere :P

first anony now palo :P

Stuck in Lab said...

1) Do you admire such persistence in a man?

No. I think its shameful for a person, male or female, to step on their ego's repeatedly for someone that couldn't care enough to give them a glimpse of hope the first, second, or third time around.

A man(or woman) like that dont deserve my admiration for their "persistence."

2) Won't he ever think she has turned me down repeatedly because she doesn't want me?

Of course he does! He isn't an idiot (i hope!). But drowning his pride like that steals all his man-cards away. And then some!

3) Or is it water under bridge because having her means more than all of that?

Its never water under the bridge. If im not settling, then neither should she. If shes settling then she can go settle all the fuck she wants away from my ass!

4) Could one truly be happy knowing they weren't the 'first' choice or the desired one? Could they fully smile without a doubt in mind?

I dont think so. There will always be this little bit of hatred for knowing he/she settled for the other.

Happy?

Sh7afana said...

I was proposed to by my husband a few times before i said yes. I was saying no for all the wrong reasons. I didnt even know him at the time 3adel. And im very glad he was persistent.
or else we wouldn't have ended up together :)

1001Nights said...

Stuck in a lab, ecstatic :P

ZoN said...

in the majority of cases (99%) i would say the hell with her, who created her created many like her.

i agree with Stuck in Lab.

bs also depends on the situation, there is always exceptions, however as i said in most cases NO FREAKING WAY; i wouldnt propose twice.
if im rejected ilmena 3aliha, i wont force myself on her.

your post made me furious, i just want to punch someone right NOW!!!

Someone Anonymous said...

1) Do you admire such persistence in a man?

Without assuming too much, I feel persistence is an admirable quality. Persistence most often has a strong desire/intent behind it.

2) Won't he ever think she has turned me down repeatedly because she doesn't want me?

Probably. Things change. It would be foolish to think 'like' is constant.

3) Or is it water under bridge because having her means more than all of that?

Sincerely, I don't know. If it is so, and I wouldn't accept such a proposal.
Escapism doesn't lead anywhere except to the problem itself, probably magnified.

4) Could one truly be happy knowing they weren't the 'first' choice or the desired one? Could they fully smile without a doubt in mind?

If the person has an understanding of answer 2, i don't think they would be unhappy. When you are in, you are IN. Simple.
Doubt is self-destructive.

Sh7afana said...

and just to be clear:
1. i only said no once before and the reason was that i was wayyyy tooo young.. not that im alot older now.. im 22 now .. just got married but the first time he proposed i was 18.. and we gave them a reason.. that i was too young